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Marcie Simmons on The Advantages and Disadvantages of Being A Female Bodybuilder

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Women who compete in the sport of female bodybuilding do face certain disadvantages. Besides narrow minded opinions from the public, they also face ostracism within the fitness community. There also like most fields women are in, is the question of unequal pay. Marcie Simmons as a competitor and athlete reveals the advantages and disadvantages of being a female bodybuilder. Marcie bases this list on her personal experiences and what she has found out from other competitors. It seems that there are more advantages compared to disadvantages. Only when society becomes more accepting that women can be different may be most of the disadvantages would disappear. The situation compared to the past has improved. There are more female athletes in various sports displaying powerful physiques. While many do not not approve, there is at least acceptance that women have the right to do what they want with their bodies. The female bodybuilder challenges the traditional notions about what a woman should be and what they can accomplish.

       One advantage is that the aesthetic is unique. It can be attractive. This may not be everyone’s version of beauty, but there are multiple versions. It is just that society promotes one paradigm of it. There is a movement of body acceptance in regards to larger women. There is no reason why muscular women cannot get the same level of acceptance.Overtime beauty standards change and vary from culture to culture. There should not be a single standard. People should make that choice themselves. The fact is women bodybuilders strive for a physique that is still an hourglass shape. A large upper body accentuates this classic image of the female body. A woman can add more shape to her body through a weight training regimen.

Women who empower themselves physically also experience a psychological change. They develop more confidence and it spreads into other areas of life. It could even have positive effects on relationships or career. The amount of exercise done can have a positive effect on mood. It is thought that exercise can also have a positive effect on sex drive. According to the Journal of Sexual Medicine    exercise may increase bodily awareness and sensation in terms of sexual arousal. More studies must be done to make such a conclusion, but it is fact that endorphins do improve emotional states.

Marcie forgot to mention that their are health benefits. Weight training can help preserve a healthy skeleton. As a person ages they lose muscle mass and bone mass declines. An exercise regimen can prevent the rate of loss. Although you do not have to train as intensely as an athlete, just a little exercise can be useful. Changes that happen in metabolism can effect weight. Strength training can be more effective at preventing obesity or weight related health issues. Seeing as women on average live longer, it is important that the quality of life be maintained. Heart disease and obesity are becoming major health issues and  exercise habits can combat such problems. There are benefits to health, yet there is one that is also more significant. Women gain a sense of independence. They are not dependent on men for a task that is physical. Lifting something, carrying groceries, opening a jar,  or shoveling snow are not a problem.That is a feminist statement without even articulating it. Also, strength can be beneficial to defending oneself. Muscles are not required for self-defense, but can be useful if one has proper fighting technique. Too many women have been subject to gender based violence or sexual assault. Being dependent on men for protection is not a rational option, when it is most likely a woman will be abused by a man she knows. Women with a new found physical strength have the benefit of confidence and protection.

        The disadvantages  of being a female bodybuilder come in the form of unwanted commentary, attention, or harassment. There are also less extreme problems that involved daily living. Shopping for clothes or being in public may become a hassle. Unwanted commentary usually comes in the form of sexist or misogynistic epithets. Phrase such as “are you a man?” or “why would a woman want to look like that?” are prevalent. This is an example of imposing body image conformity. It is the conviction that all women should look a certain way mainly to the satisfaction of men. Women come in all shapes and sizes. That does not mean certain women are any less feminine for looking different.

Normally it seems there are few who say such rude comments to a person’s face. There are some who do, but the internet has become a place for the pusillanimous to bully.  Female bodybuilders and athletes face rude commentary on their social media. Everyone has the right to their opinion and it can be understandable that there are different preferences. However, this does not give a person the right to disparage or insult a person different from them. Sometimes attention is not always negative. It can best be described as neutral. People may stare or be perplex simply because they have never seen a woman of such physicality. Marcie describes it as almost being like an animal at a zoo. It should be understood that these women are people; not walking exhibits. Simply being curious is not rude. Treating someone like a sideshow attraction is. The opposite end of the spectrum is one that is more an invasion of privacy, Harassment from schmoes or super fans can be challenging. This can be sexual harassment when social media is involved. It is very common that women have comments written on their Facebook pages or Instagram accounts that are inappropriate in nature. Touching becomes a problem. Some athletes have experienced random strangers coming up feeling their biceps without saying anything. Certain behaviors are not acceptable. A female bodybuilder must have the inner fortitude to deal with how differently they are treated.

        There are also simple activities such as buying clothes, which become more complicated. Interactions in public can either be constructive or strange in terms of reactions from people.  The fashion industry does not tailor clothes to women who do not have slender body types. It has only been a recent development that plus sized clothing was made available to women. Depending how muscular a woman gets her selection in wardrobe is limited.

 The trouble for women of this physicality is that their is limited clothing to accommodate their highly developed upper bodies. Putting on a shirt too small they might just rip out of it. Then there are challenges when buying pants. If you are a woman with significant lower body development finding something that fits is a journey. Large legs and developed posteriors have not been accounted for when some companies make clothing for women. Sometimes women would like to wear things other than athletic apparel. One solution is for women of this shape to but clothing extra large. This may not even work, because may be too big.

Clothing is either too big or too small. Then also when the body changes a woman may have to buy more clothes. When one embarks on changing the body old clothes will not fit. There are store that are more friendly to the muscular woman. Finding business attire could also be a possible challenge. Casual wear would still be a struggle. Women’s clothing does have an interesting history. Clothes were made in the past, it was designed to restrict women’s physical movement. Simultaneously, it was designed to cover up as much of the female body as possible. This was why the development of bloomers was significant. It allowed women to move more freely and participate in cycling. This encouraged a generation of sportswomen in the late 19th century. There are women who are working to make clothing for women of various body types. Women who are built like this will have to experience reactions from the general public. Some people may take their photos, ask them to arm wrestle or put them in a headlock. Other people may be less strange in their behavior asking about the sport, nutrition, and training advice.

It is almost as if some women become celebrities getting excessive  attention and  people asking for autographs. This may be overwhelming to someone who has an introverted personality.  Everyone does enjoy a least some periods of privacy. Supporters should understand this. Asking for an autograph or photograph is fine, but do not be so intrusive. The curious observer should have no problem asking a question. The questions should be articulated in a respectful manner. Doing this will allow certain prejudices to be conquered. As Marcie stated,  there are disadvantages that can change daily life.

         There is going to be the disadvantage of dealing with insecure people. When men and women see athletes like these there are multiple reactions. The most insecure either act the worst or have the most vituperative responses. Men either feel insecure about their masculinity when doing such harsh criticism. Sometimes their is even literal fear. People fear what they do not understand. Women may even have jealousy looking at women such as these. The strange part about this is that one would think women would be supportive of other women. It seems the sisterhood concept of feminist thought is more so a myth. These insecure people may be threatened even if women did not have bodies like these. Women who are very intelligent or talented intimidate insecure men. They also make certain women envious. The solution is to ignore such people, because they may never accomplish anything themselves.

            Being a female bodybuilder does have its share of advantages and disadvantages. There are benefits that come with a strong body. Marcie describes one of almost being a real life superhero. Some women look more Wonder Woman than Gal Gadot . The statement is a bold one. It shows that women can do anything with enough effort. As society advance women will continue to reach new levels in politics, science, and the arts. If women can develop themselves mentally, why not physically as well? A person should seek advancement rather than limitation. The worst thing a person can be a part of is a mindless conformist mob. These women dare to challenge cultural convictions about women’s bodies and physical capabilities. It may not be your cup of tea, but at least respect the accomplishment of the athlete.

Marcie Simmons on The Advantages and Disadvantages of Being A Female Bodybuilder

Marcie Simmons : Schmoes Versus Fans

This is another Marcie Simmons video describing from her point of view the difference between schmoes and fans. It is clear that she does not hold the schmoes in high regard. One reason is that there is the problem of  online piracy in regards to athlete’s content and online harassment. This harassment can either be sexual or stalker like in nature. Such behavior is intolerable and should be condemned. Yet, all schmoes should not be condemned. Marcie may not be condemning them all, but just the section that she calls aggressive schmoes. The prevalence of sexual harassment is being exposed more now than ever and has dominated mass media conversation. It can occur anywhere and anytime. While this is a legitimate concern, female athletes should remember that schmoes are keeping female bodybuilding alive. They are the ones who come and buy tickets to shows. They pay even more money to engage in session wrestling, which is more or less an open secret. Without them, female bodybuilding would not have a financial pillar. Casual fans or former fans may not be as loyal as one would think. The audiences have shrunk and so has coverage. Many former fans say that the women got too extreme, but schmoes still loyally remain part of the fan base. The major part of the problem is how social media is used by people.

       Marcie describes fans as mostly being supporters. However, schmoes are more so hardcore fans. Due to the behavior of some they are either stereotyped as fetishists, eccentrics, or potential sexual predators. Marcie explains it is about semantics, but it should be known schmoes like the most muscular women. The average fan likes women of any athletic shape. Schmoe continues to be a pejorative when it should not be. Schmoes almost resemble groupies in relation to rock stars. Within fandom, there are always fans who become too obsessed or too aggressive with their beloved famous person.

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There should not be condemnation of schmoes. They seem to be the last people who find extremely muscular women a positive and attractive thing. They are a part of the female bodybuilding subculture. Female bodybuilding may never go mainstream so the demographic outreach will be small in an economic sense. Sexist prejudice and traditional gender role beliefs stop the sport from reach wider public. This mean the maintenance of  a loyal fan base is critical. The idea that a woman can have six pack abs and big biceps does not seem like an unusual concept the the schmoe. This video seems to be a stark contrast from her other presentation ” The Importance of Schmoes to Female Bodybuilding.” They do provide a significant financial support as Marcie articulated. She has stated this is not a horrible thing to have schmoes being a part of the culture.

The female bodybuilding category is shrinking with a limited number of contests for athletes to compete in. It is essential now more than ever to get as many allies and supporters as possible.Schmoes were there from the beginning and were the first supporters. When female body appeared many did not accept it even within the fitness industry itself. Schmoes embraced the new female mesomorph with enthusiasm. The feelings were not reciprocated. Many women in the sport have a negative view of schmoes or look down upon them. Considering they do provide financial support one would think the athletes would be more appreciative. Instead athletes call schmoes “demanding” or “entitled.”  If women are going to keep this sport alive that means they will have to use some public relations skills. Showing appreciation for your moderate and hardcore fans will improve the state of the sport. If not, fans will simply leave. Most schmoes do not do the activities Marcie is describing. A section do, but may be they should not be classified in that terminology.

             The aggressive schmoe is not a hardcore fan, but is sexual harasser. Women face sexual harassment in the workplace, public spaces,  and even in educational settings. The vast world of the internet and social media has expanded the problem. Marcie exposes that stalking has occurred to athletes both on and offline. Social media accounts of athletes are flooded with messages with inappropriate lascivious and explicit statements. Normally one thinks that such powerful women would not be victim to such behavior. This can happen to anyone. The reason such behavior continues is because it goes unreported or is just not punished. This explains why Harvey Weinstein  was able to engage in sexual misconduct for decades. There is nothing that can be taught  in sensitivity training that could fix men like  that. The only solution is to either isolate or contain them. There has to be a change in how men view women. Unfortunately, society views women as sex objects rather than people which encourages this type of behavior. Living in a society that values women’s appearance or sexual capital distorts men’s views of women. The idea that is projected is that women are pleasure objects for men and thus sexual misconduct is just “boys being boys.” Such convictions and behavior should not be tolerated. While it could be easier to stop such behavior in public spaces, online harassment is more difficult to tackle. To what extent should companies act on social media platforms without damaging free speech or expression? This is not a simple answer, but there are blocking  mechanisms in place. Athletes relevant to this discussion should not be afraid to do so when they are harassed. Exposing unacceptable behavior, strict rules and laws, and enforcement can counter the rise of sexual harassment.

        Before schmoes are cast as predators it should be remembered that they are a financial pillar. These men are willing to pay large amounts of money for autographed material and memorabilia. They come to contests when total audience size is decreasing. Women have found them to be a unique business opportunity. There are women who get sponsorship from them as Marice  stated before. However women can get more money by doing session wrestling sometimes amounting to more than they would get for competing in a contest. A one hour session could range from $900 or more depending on the type of wrestling. A female bodybuilder has to consider that training, competing, and travel will  cost a lot of money. Some competitors may even stop, because they can no longer afford to keep up. The sport does not provide large financial gains for women and many have careers outside fitness. Wrestling a schmoe enables  them to make a profit and continue to compete. This money from session wrestling is obviously not taxed, because it is not the traditional business. Muscle worship does not even require much physical effort. There are men who pay large amounts of money and women gain the support. It is not just female bodybuilders that do this; fitness women, physique competitors, figure models, and women in top physical shape are also involved.

There are women who are just associated with session wrestling itself. The reality is athletes do foster the atmosphere of schmoes. To hate them for taking part in services seems ludicrous. If there is tension women are also responsible for it. Women have to extent used their feminine charms on men to get from them something they want. Traditionally this was a method used to manipulate men in societies that either limited their freedom or navigation. it explains why the gold digger or the femme fatale are a persistent image in society and popular culture. Men with power are more susceptible to this type of sex based manipulation. The case with schmoes is that to a degree they are manipulated by these women. So it is hard to say that women doing this are completely victims of a patriarchal power structure. It seems that the the power dynamic shifts in favor of women. Not only do they have the traditional feminine charm it is combined with physical power. This also linked with the fact women control the rates and conditions of their session business. Schmoes are exploited financially and are devoted followers so it seems unfair for female bodybuilders to be vexed with them. There are those who fit the stereotypes, but there are schmoes from different races, religions, class backgrounds, and nations. Saying all schmoes are malevolent or harming the sport is just an exaggeration. There are portion of schmoes who are secretive about their love of  female bodybuilders. They may not even go to wrestling session at all simply out of nervousness.  Criticism and stigma are something they want to avoid. Schmoes do help in terms of support. Women in sports normally have to find alternatives to support themselves and continue competing. Some of the burden is at least reduced. Supplements, food, gym membership, and athletic clothing are considerations women have to work into their budget. The labor and routine is intense leading up to being on stage.

This can be stressful especially in an industry and sport that does not respect women or their contributions. Foe some women, the admiration from a hardcore fan is a psychological boost from an atmosphere of negativity. While people harshly criticize women for doing sessions and building up schmoe culture no one takes time to figure out what is the motivation. The financial and business aspect is clear, but there may be another reason women do this. There are women who also have fetishes and it its seems obvious men are not the only ones with them. The idea that a woman can easily control a man physically may be arousing to women. There are women who compete who do sessions who do not need financial support. It is not about sexual expression all the time either. Some women like the challenge of testing their physical power against male opponents. It may remind them of a time of simple childhood play that one cannot do as an adult. This a setting so private that women of this stature can display their muscle and power without ostracism or condemnation from the fitness community or general public. There is a level of freedom they experience that does not restrict them to gender appropriate social mores. Thanks to schmoes there are more websites covering muscular women than magazines, exposing them to a wider audience. Fan forums such as Saradas get a bad reputation, but often it provides information on athletes you may not find anywhere. Upcoming contests or  industry news in regards to women circulates there. The piracy issue continues to be a persistent problem. This does not stop large numbers of people from buying content. Gene X Magazine ( http://tour.ftvideo.com/genex.php) provides detailed coverage. photography,  and videos to users. He would definitely be considered a schmoe. His online publication has been around since the 1990s and provided his signature high quality photography.

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Marcie does not hate schmoes or think they are all terrible. As she eloquently described the situation : “Just like anything else there is good and bad.” She articulated “The good ones show love and support and the bad ones wank around and act like malicious trolls.”The hope there are more good people than awful ones. The issue she touches upon is how social media is used. This is a new type of media and form of communication, which poses various problems.

        Social media such as Twitter and  Facebook have become such a part of people’s lives. It has the power to reach anyone across the world and be an efficient organizing tool.  The problem is how people use this platform. It either enables cyber bullying or harassment. The colloquial term of trolling has entered mainstream lexicon describing those who go online to start flame wars and insult people without punishment or repercussion. It emboldens certain people to say offensive and rude comments that they would be too timid to say in real life. Women just like other people online do face harassment, but there is a level of responsibility on the user. If someone wants to keep their life private they should consider what they post online. Once a photo or a comment is posted it is pretty much out in cyberspace forever. It would seem strange that an athlete would complain about people commenting on the pictures that they post. People may post images that are displaying themselves nude or could violate the terms of use. The simple rule to go by is think before you post or write anything.

It is hard to convince people you do not want them to look at particular photos, when the most outrageous or suggestive ones are posted. If  one truly values their privacy, they should be mindful of the information posted. The other alternative is just not use social media at all. Then as Marcie says there is a difference between admiration and being an obsessive stalker. There is nothing wrong with collecting photos, but an obsession extends to trying to find out about an athlete’s home address, relationships, and place of employment. Athletes must understand that what once you post something it basically becomes public. So it seems rather peculiar that a person would get vexed if certain photos appear on other sites or forums. If an athlete is making a social media presence they have to decide what type it will be. If it is a professional one it should only be related to business inquiries only. That should display skill and work credentials. A personal social media presence should just be for friends and family. This should have the private setting so that only people in that small circle can have access. A social media presence for fans of an athlete should include photos, upcoming events, and links to other sites the athlete is associated with. There can also be information on how fans can contribute to sponsorship. Instagram could be a way for some athletes to get modeling contracts for athletic clothing, by posting some of their own pictures. Social media is not all terrible; it can be a method of promoting one’s self in the fitness and sports world in which media coverage is limited for women. The public must learn to use new technologies responsibly. Etiquette and manners still apply online just as the do in real life. Athletes deserve respect not harassment. Schmoes and female bodybuilders are connected.They should seek a firm alliance because the relationship is symbiotic. There are sexual harassers among the ranks, but they should not be the representation of all schmoes. Together maybe athlete and fan can help the sport grow and flourish.

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Francesca Zappitelli Wrestler, Actor, and Filmmaker Interview On Her Movie Ballerina I Am Not

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Abraham Zennie interviews Francesca Zappitelli in a 43 minute video. The discussion explores women’s entry and rise into the world of professional wrestling. It is a recent entertainment phenomenon and women are becoming the main events.Other topics covered are the culture, current issues, and briefly its connection to the fitness world. Francesca Zappitelli has wrestled in various independent companies and even has done mixed wrestling for websites. She is now taking on the role of actor and filmmaker in her documentary A Ballerina I Am Not. There are many WWE stars that appear in the documentary. There seems to be the phenomenon of the physically strong woman becoming more visible in pop culture and society. There are some controversies that are revealed in the interview. Topics such as violence and the gender constructs are mentioned. Although professional wrestling is more of a spectacle, it does take strength and skill. Wrestlers do get hurt and the moves are real. As for the rivalries presented these are nothing more than storylines made for audiences and their entertainment. Women are entering professional wrestling in larger numbers and now there are more platforms.

       Francesca Zappitelli explains there is no single avenue to get into the world of professional wrestling. It is a matter of simply doing research and remaining focused on goals.

It never hurts to have an inspiration. Zappitelli reveals that her main inspiration was Rachel Mclish the first Ms. Olympia. She did compete in one bodybuilding show at age 18. Francesca said she loved the discipline and being in shape. However, Frankie then claims she wanted more. Specifically she wanted to be more of a performer and to test her physical limits. To Francesca simply posing on stage would seem dull and uninspiring. The acting and performance element is what caught her attention. This was her childhood dream. The irony is that female bodybuilders actually do wrestle. Session wrestling has been a part of the sport probably for as long as it has existed. Francesca did mixed wrestling videos under the name Frankie, wrestling both men and women. With the internet sites a have appeared to cater to this interest. She does not mention this in the interview, but is more or less an open secret that there are men who like to wrestle strong women. Once thought to be in the realm of fetish, now mixed wrestling clubs have emerge were men and women wrestle and test their skills. Mixed wrestling existed before the rise of session wrestling. Now it seems many women in bodybuilding are offering them to finance their sport. It is not just women in the bodybuilding class,but in fitness, bikini, figure, and physique . There was a point in which this would have been unthinkable.

Women with such strength and bodies have radically changed what people associate women with. Mr. Abraham realized that in reality this world of female muscle is a $5 billion dollar industry. There is a growing demand for the physically strong woman, but the market and distribution is disjointed. It comes out in pockets never weaved together. The strong woman is finding mainstream success in professional wrestling, however women struggle in the bodybuilding world due to it being mostly subcultural. If these two mainstream and subcultural venues were to ally it would be a positive event for women. At one time it seemed like that was happening. Ann Marie Cooks and Christy Wolf were bodybuilders who entered the world of wrestling.

Their tenures were not long, but they did provide fans of the WCW with much entertainment.  Chyna during the 1990s to early 2000s  was one of the most popular wrestlers. Chyna was also a bodybuilder before becoming a wrestler. There is a connection between wrestling and fitness, yet the two worlds seem separate. Women in the past had few opportunities to wrestle. Wrestling was seen as a male only activity and women were not even allowed to wrestle along side men in the same venue. There was a cultural shift that came with Title IX and the feminist movement. Young girls started playing more sports than ever before and society they had more opportunities in employment, education, and having an independent life. Women were no longer stopped from activities that were thought to be men’s domain. The entry into sports created a new type of woman. It was a woman that projected physical skill and strength thought to be a biological impossibility. Dated cultural beliefs and body image held some women back, but other embraced this new paradigm and pushed their bodies further. Women were should developed muscle in various sports,but the highest level of development came from female bodybuilding . Their muscles were defined and larger than anyone had seen before. Wrestlers like the Fabulous Moolah had to break barriers to get to wrestle while women of today have it much easier. Mary Ellison had to challenge the law so that women could wrestle in Madison Square Garden along side men. Women can now wrestle and display powerful physiques.

While there has been progress this project is continuing. There has to be progress in terms of other areas of society, but sometimes it helps when one area is taken care of. Relative to the sports world the progress of women seems immense in such a short period of time. This movement seems to be a small one, but growing. There is a push in fitness among women who are engaged in a women’s physical culture movement.

        The progress Zappitelli mentions is that women are embracing the new physical culture movement and it is not just in America. Japan like America has a tradition of wrestling that women are no strangers to. They fight and do acrobatics as well as perform in a similar manner in the US. The Japanese, like Americans enjoy the spectacle and antics of the athletes. Traditional wrestling also has a long  history in other parts of the world. Senegal has a tradition of laamb ( a term for wrestling culture ). Women are now becoming active wrestlers, despite conservative objections.

The new women’s physical culture movement has clearly spread around the world. women now are competing in higher numbers at the Olympics. The year 2016 saw more women competing in various categories around the world. There are countries that still need to make progress. Saudi Arabia for example is still attempting to increase its number of  female athletes. There has been a paradigm shift in many regards. The first one is that there is no contradiction between femininity and muscle. Traditionally femininity was define as soft and delicate in body, while being modest in behavior. Women are not only projecting physical strength they are showing it proudly. A new sense of confidence. Women are not afraid to show they can be strong or be stronger than a man. The cultural shift is that there are people who are embracing this either moderately or enthusiastically. The fans of female bodybuilding were the first to understand the beauty of it and mainstream society is merely catching up. Women are lifting weights seeking to tone, which really means building muscle. Every woman is not attempting to reach a level of an athlete, but the gym is no longer a male only space. Television and the internet make the physically strong woman more visible.

The physically fit female has appeared in various forms. it depends on how far women want to take it and what their goals are. Francesca states their needs to be more change and their has to be more done. While their is some level on acceptance, there will always be backlash to change. The female physical culture movement has also stretched out to different age groups. Senior citizens are getting involved in exercise and girls are involved in sports like their brothers. Although there has yet to be major leagues for women in baseball or tackle football they are playing these sports. There are women in the US who have organized their own tackle football leagues without NFL assistance. Women are now experiencing the joys of strength and fitness, which men have enjoyed much longer. Society has changed because it was demanded. There have of course been muscular women prior to modern professional sports. The difference is that women in human history have never reached this level of physical prowess or power before. It is uncertain what the future holds, but the evolution is not complete.

       The interview goes into the subject of sexual harassment and domestic abuse. Women who go into male dominated fields often face sexual harassment and wrestling is no exception.  Such behavior is unacceptable and must be punished. However, there is a problem with the new hash tag movement #me too . Women must realize such sexual misconduct should be reported immediately. Waiting a week and longer to do so allows for culprits to escape changes and punishment. This only makes it more difficult to capture such people. Another problem is there is a tendency to label all men as potential rapists. The strange and somewhat offensive slogan of “teach men not to rape”  is another third wave feminist campaign that demonizes all men. Boys are not taught by their fathers to rape women. There are sexist convictions that may be transferred from environment and culture. To say that rape happens because boys are taught it from a young age, ignores the complexities of the problem. Crimes such as rape happen due to some men wanting to assert power and dominance over women. These criminals believe women are easy targets. They view women as sex objects and victims. Their is a tendency to blame entertainment and media for such behavior, but this does not explain such criminal acts occurring before the rise of such media.  This is how the rape culture theory falls apart. Simply telling such aggressive individuals not to attack someone is as futile as telling a racist to accept people as equals. The solution requires women to be proactive and good men to be allies. Women must learn self defense and understand that not every man they meet is going to be a good one. Women tend to not have such a great judgement of character in regards to some men. They could end up in abusive relationships  with men they thought were decent.

 Women should learn to protect themselves, rather than be dependent on men for protection.  The idea that women are too weak to defend themselves is harmful especially in a world becoming more violent. This also goes back to cases of domestic violence. Francesca and Mr. Abraham discuss what they see as a trend in which it seems that it is okay to hit women. This really is not a trend or a growing phenomenon. A viral video of a bus driver hitting a female passenger sparked controversy over male and female assault. The following year football player Ray Rice was condemned for hitting his soon to be wife. Acts of violence or domestic abuse are despicable, however there is very little reaction when women engage in domestic abuse and assault. These cases or instances may be are compared to male on female violence, but there is little chance of women getting prosecuted for such actions. Male domestic abuse victims hardly receive any attention and many refuse to believe they exist. At times it seen as something comic. That is why the calls that women want equality seem empty. If this were true both men and women would be punished equally for acts of violence. This is an instance in which the weaker sex stereotype distorts people’s reasoning, because their is a belief that women are just not physically capable of violence. While it is true that on average women are not as strong as men, there are women who are very powerful.

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Dani Reardon attacked her boyfriend : female bodybuilder attacks boyfriend she did this when drunk and yet her reputation was not damaged. If a man did this it would be a whole different story.

     A strong muscular woman could hurt many men if she tried. Men should not hit women, but that does not give women a license to hit men without expecting retaliation. There are women who do hit men for whatever reason, believing that men will not react or that they can handle a strike form the one they hit. When a woman is the initiator of violence third wave feminists are silent, but when a man is the assailant there is censure. The rhetoric of equality and women can do anything is drowned out by how evil men are. They do not want equality,but special treatment. Relevant to violence women are not to be made responsible for their actions in particular situations. This notion is ludicrous. If women want to be equals they should realize that starting a physical altercation with a man would result in a negative repercussion. These altercations are the result of the strong woman image and power feminism. These developments are not harmful in themselves, but give the average woman an overestimation of their physical capabilities. Men have denser bones and more muscle mass giving them more strength. Women should not slap or start fights with men. Men who respond are called ungentlemanly or brutes. Women are not condemned for being assailants. Mr.Abraham says in the interview that “society went off the rails” and that the gentlemen is dying out. The only reason the gentlemen is declining in society is that women do not respect or like such men.

 If this strong woman were to assault this man it probably would not provoke a response . 

If this man assaulted this woman he would be arrested doubtless of the situation or  circumstance. 

Women in American society  value status over ethical character in men. This explains why women will tolerate abuse from more powerful men. Donald Trump and Harvey Wienstein  were able to do harass women mainly because they allowed it and accepted due to the fact they are men of prominence.  Most of their advances were unwanted, but women did not fight back because they were more impressed with who they were. There is no rational or legitimate reason for any of those men to have relationships with women or to even be in contact with any. Their actions prove they are dangerous. A kind gentlemen is normally ignored or rejected by women. The lugubrious state of affairs show that women are still being raised to be submissive. Behaviors such as being agreeable all the time or tolerating unacceptable behavior is what women are taught as girls. This will not help them later in life. Women who do challenge mistreatment are either labelled a “difficult woman” or a complainer. Women are going to have to change their behavior and understand they are their own advocates. A knight in shining armor is not coming to your rescue. Chivalry is a dated concept and must be discarded for the reason it perpetuates this horrid cycle of domination. Chivalry is not about just “holding doors open for women” it was about maintaining control in a gender role order. Women were thought to be too weak and helpless to be independent and required male protection. Women did have to an extent a level of comfort, but lacked freedom in terms of education, personal finance, and their own destiny. However, there was the relative  social safety net of the male breadwinner that provided resources they could not get access to . Now that women have a level of independence and can show they can take care of themselves, there really is no need for chivalry. Domestic abuse, sexual harassment and  violence against women is nothing new; it is just that the public has become more aware of the extent of the problem. Their is a violence culture in the US that is responsible for this and it has nothing to do with the decline of chivalry. Gun culture, militarism, and aggressive law enforcement are attributes of violence culture. The US was founded on violence culture with the extermination of the Native Americans and the enslavement of the African peoples. The US is plagued with these problems and it even comes out in sports. The more violent the sport the more the American public likes it. Wrestling. MMA, and football have a huge fandom. The reason could be for the viewer such acts of violence displayed to an extent satisfies or relieves the need to express frustration. If women want equality they need to understand that means their will be not special privileges leftover from the era of chivalry. If this movement to challenge sexual harassment and assault  wants to be serious it needs to target areas in which the problem is much worse. The US military and prison system have a sex crimes problem far greater than the one in the entertainment industry. That must be addressed to the same extent, if not this #me too is nothing more than a media circus distraction, not a genuine movement for change.

      Francesca does have a valid position that their is a level of rage at women advancing in any field. This seems more vocal in sports in fitness. There are men with backward views who feel women are invading male spaces for the sake of dethroning them. The reasoning is that women have advance so far, at least there is one element we have left : sports and physical strength. For a moment that was true, but that is not the case anymore. The reactions range from disrespect of women to condemnation. While it is true that their is a rage present in a portion of men in the sports world with women’s presence, there are also male supporters. They are also ostracized for their support and even viewed unfavorably by the athletes themselves. There are men who love female muscle and athleticism so much they are willing to pay to experience it up close. Schmoes as they are called in the subculture fitness world a regularly disparaged, even though their financial support is critical.

Women in male dominated fields are going to have to work harder to overcome certain prejudices that men have. There is always the question of women’s competence. They are scrutinized more and this is the reason women must be mindful to be treated equally with special accommodation. Doing so would only create resentment among male colleagues.  If women want to be seen as equal wrestlers they must take hits, be entertaining, and have the love of the industry. Then they will be seen just as wrestlers. Chyna did this to great effect during her career at the WWE.

The women who went in professional wrestling were sometimes the only females in their wrestling training camp. There is a level of intimidation and pressure being the only minority in a group. There has been more women and that has improved the situation for them as a group. The feelings of loneliness can be difficult to bear without any support. Normally it is women wrestling women in matches, however intergender matches do occur sometimes. If women choose in wrestle men they have to accept they are going to take hits ( and men vice versa). Seeing as the matches are determined by the writers and the scripts they produce, there would be no issue. This more about entertainment rather tan pure physical contest. Therefore, strength differences would not effect anything. It is great women are advancing, however this does not mean  men should be disparaged. Phrases such as “the future is female” or the power feminist rhetoric preach a desire for matriarchy. The goal should be a happy future together. Empowerment does not mean getting revenge on men or viewing them as a monolithic enemy. Secondly, feminists should follow their own rhetoric. They preach sisterhood, yet white feminists ignore or hold racial prejudice toward women of color. If women in sports were to ban together they could counter the traditionalist backlash. These men can be angry if they want to and this will not deter fans and the talented women.

         Women athletes and specifically wrestlers are gaining more internet exposure and traffic yet are getting less of the revenue. This is a representation of how older gatekeepers are controlling content  even when consumer taste are  evolving. There is a growing number of men and women who want to see this rise of modern sports woman. The internet seems to be more ahead compared to television with new websites and blogs exposing people to this rise in women’s sports entertainment. Francesca Zappitelli’s film will be available on Amazon Prime and hopefully may have a video release. The physically strong woman is becoming more prevalent in society and popular culture. What started with women doing strong woman acts   in the 19th to early 20th century evolved into bodybuilding for women. The fitness culture then spread and entered the mainstream. Female athletes to average women began training with weights and embracing modern physical culture. Wrestling thought as man’s sport saw women enter in both the Olympics and professional sports entertainment. Zappitelli’s  A Ballerina I Am Not is a historical documentation  of how women came to wrestling and how they are changing it.

Francesca Zappitelli Wrestler, Actor, and Filmmaker Interview On Her Movie Ballerina I Am Not

Marcie Simmons Discusses Lift and Carry Fetishism

Marcie Simmons produced this video a year ago discussing the fetish of lift and carry.There are many reasons why men and women would find this activity arousing or attractive . This fetish involves a person doing various carries of another individual. There is a connection with cartolagnia and stenolgania, but this fetish could be classified as something different. Marcie speaks about this more from a personal perspective and her experiences. Being an athlete herself and a part of the bodybuilding subculture, this provides a rare glimpse from a woman’s perspective. Sometimes this is not sexual in nature as Marcie states. It could just be ludicrous fun. This may be a strange form of entertainment, but amusing to some. The biggest mystery is why does this arouse some individuals ? It could be that some are exposed to certain things in youth that mold their predilections or tastes as an adult. There is something unique about a physically strong woman, which may add to this attraction. Then it has to be realized that their is an element of sexual expression. Society ignores and tries to repress that people have different ways of expressing themselves sexually. Other than the more taboo element, these acts seem to be more entertainment based.

        Marcie explains that women physically lifting men up can be comedic. She did this to a man in her gym and posted it on Facebook. The reason was just to entertain viewers. The internet has created the age of instant entertainment. Videos that are unedited and raw can be spread rapidly. Marcie says that there are different cases of who is carried in videos. This could be a woman carrying a man or woman carrying another woman. The woman carrying a man seems to be the most popular type of video. This fetish is not exclusive to men, but women also have it.

This is entertaining mainly because it is rare that a woman is physically capable of lifting up a full grown man. Fireman’s carries, piggy back rides, over head lifts, and calf raises the strong women perform to the amazement of many. Although wrestling is not a part of this fetish that provides a level of humor. A woman dominating a man on a physical level is a event that does not happen everyday and the fact even large men can be woman handled becomes a viral video.Marcie posted such a video showing her lifting a man with minimal effort. It seems to bring grown men and women back to a time of early childhood play. At this stage it is fine for boys and girls to engage in physical play together. When children mature into adulthood such play or simple fun is no longer acceptable. When strong women lift and wrestle men it takes them back to those carefree days.

There is little time or acceptance for adults engaging in enjoyable activity. The responsibilities of adulthood demand that work comes first and fun second. This almost becomes more of a stress reducing activity. Work or family may cause distress, which may explain why men seeking such fetish sessions. Men are under more stress and pressure from society to either be leaders or pillars of the community. There is little room or outlets for emotional catharsis. Men have to in a stereotypical fashion, not express and emotion or vulnerable state. This creates a level of mental distress or lugubriousness. Men going to sessions who are married may do this to have the stress of life be gone for a period of time. Other men may like the idea that a woman can challenge and defeat them on a physical level. The session may actually be more of a workout session testing  both participants athletic skills. Men who go to sessions come from all walks of life and some are former athletes themselves. They are impressed that women can give them that challenge. Simultaneously, it is possible they like that their are women who have an intense interest in fitness and sports. Lift and carry is not entirely sexual. It is a type of entertainment to a section of followers. There are whole websites now devoted to lift and carry solely. Also in a similar fashion there are websites devoted to scissor holds alone. Then the majority is mixed wrestling. While there is multiple demonstrations of strength feats, including arm wrestling , wrestling holds, or others some prefer just one.

The fetish seems more complicated than previously thought. Classification is important to understanding this sexual fetish. While it could be said there is a general fetish for women of strong and muscular bodies, there is one for women who are just strong. They may not have muscle, but are physically capable of doing strength feats. It seems more important to the lover of lift and carry strength has value rather than the look of muscles. The rise of websites devoted to this shows that their is an entertainment value to this. It is however, still underground and part of the fitness subculture.

         Human sexuality is both biologically and culturally based. There is also a psychological element to this. Human beings exhibit a level of sexual expression in their preferences in terms of beauty and sexual behavior. Lift and carry as Marcie Simmons reveals could be a form of role play. Role play used in the context of sexual behavior refers to practices two individuals do prior to intercourse. This is done to fulfill a sexual fantasy. Relevant to this context, there are men who love the idea of strong women. Marcie explains that there are a portion of men who like the idea of being rendered helpless when confronted with a strong woman’s physical might. Women might also get a level of arousal from the fact they can overpower a man. Women may experience psychologically a new sense of power and control that rarely have in their lives. Roles are in a sense briefly reversed with women taking a dominating status. May be it is not so much being made weak and helpless, but acting out a role play fantasy. Some men who engage in session report loving the concept of female hero. The muscular woman almost embodies these qualities and this could be from a person’s childhood.

There could be men who were as children and saw a muscular woman in real life or in a form a entertainment which sparked this interest. It could have been watching a sporting event or reading a comic which featured women with powerful physiques.Comic book characters like Wonder Woman or professional women wrestlers on television may generate interests. There may be some contact with a tomboy in a man’s childhood, that created a fond memory. Sigmund Freud believed that sex was a large motivator for human action. While it may be a part of it, that is not all as he assumed. Some of his theories of course are questionable. According to surveys by sexologists and psychologists more men may like foreplay than women. This may cause frustration in women who rather get directly to the point copulation. These activities between two people never follow a linear path. Foreplay and the cat could happen in random order depending on the situation. It should be noted that role play differs from foreplay. Role play involves the people in question acting out a particular fantasy or scenario. Session wrestlers may act as bully or hero depending on what a client wants. The sexual arousal comes from the feelings of being astounded that a woman can do such feats. However this is also a arousal from women who may physically struggle to lift a man. It is not so much that they are successful in the feat, but rather showing exertion.

This also explains why some who love lift and carry are also  impressed by women of slim body types who can lift them. The fact they can do that with little effort, but not look like they could creates a feeling of magnificent wonder. Marcie Simmons articulates that this is not a psychological problem. It would not be classified a paraphilia either. This is just a  a sexual fetish and another way in which people express their sexuality. This may also as Marcie explains why people consume pornography. When asked many would say they do not watch or consume such material simply out of embarrassment. Yet, it could be an outlet of sexual expression for some people. Such taboos relate to people being afraid of sex and sexuality. This reveals why some deny that their are multiple sexual orientations or that urges are biologically based. Such extreme though also harms public health by either eliminating sex education form public school curriculum. Having knowledge about the human body and its function is neither inappropriate or immoral as religious fundamentalist claim. Culturally, there has been a liberation in the West known as  the sexual revolution. Contraception, sex positive feminism, and the acceptance different sexual orientations were a product of that. Women had more rights and control of their bodies than in previous centuries. Humanity has reached a point in which sexual behavior is being accepted and openly discussed more so than ever before.  The word fetish will someday will not have a negative connotation.

       The muscular woman and athletic woman is unique in many regards. the idea of strong and woman are still opposite concepts to many. It has become a new form of beauty to devotees and followers. This is a revolution that few realize is happening. There has not been a point in human history in which women have developed themselves physically to such a high level. Muscular women did exist prior to modern sports, but the women of today surpass them. This has become another paradigm of beauty. Traditionally, the image beauty for women in the 20th century was slender and to an extent some shape. Celebrities and models such as Lena Horne or Marlin Monroe emphasized such a body image.

When women got involved in professional sports  a new form of body image emerged. There was no longer a concern of fitting a particular standard of beauty. Women began choosing it for themselves. There are women who love the look of a muscular physique and diligently work to attain such a body. Power is in both a mental and physical sense is an attractive element. Power from women was at one time believed to be unfeminine, but attitudes are gradually shifting. Physical power in women is still criticized by the wider society. A woman can be strong,but looking strong generates ostracism. Claims of being “too big” or “unladylike” are constant dated and   subtlety sexist beliefs that are propagated. The muscular woman is no different from other women, yet they are rare. The average woman do not have such immense  physical strength. This demonstrates why some may either be shocked or repudiate such a woman of a certain physicality. It may not be something they are used to. Those who embrace the look think seek out women like this.

Lift and carry from this stand point could be some men embracing women’s new found power in terms of strength. While it is okay that women can show physical skill to an extent showing large muscles still seems to frighten or disgust others. This is not repulsive, just women who are different from what society thinks they should be. The image of the passive, frail, weak, and scared female has become a anachronistic stereotype. However, there still  is a strong emphasis on gender roles. Men and women are forced to con form to these unwritten rules. This sessions of lift and carry some what overturn these rules by doing role reversals. Women during these sessions have in a way become in charge, while the man gives away some of his power.

There could be more to it than just reversal of power relations. The thrill of seeing a unique type of woman up close could just be another dynamic. The only time fans of muscular and strong women may see them is through images, TV, or websites. Actually witnessing something is different from a mere record.Seeing a muscular woman in person could be just that awe inspiring to a fan. From this perspective it may not have to be either roles whether submissive or dominant. It could just be seeing an interesting person for the first time. Looking at lift and carry in narrow terms of submission and domination may be ignoring other factors. This could just reinforce sexist prejudices or ideas. The assumption that if it involves men and women doing an activity together it must be automatically sexual is false. Sessions rarely involve sexual exchange, but that does not mean it has not happened in some cases. This is a subculture that has developed and it is still evolving. The arousal comes from numerous factors which include past experiences in youth, personal preference, and environment. There are obvious biological reasons for sexual response. Lift and carry  is one of many fetishes that both men and women have. It can hardly be described as being abnormal.

Marcie Simmons Discusses Lift and Carry Fetishism